Kentucky Carry, Part II
We previously posted a very thorough overview of Kentucky’s concealed carry laws provided by a local blogger GreatBlueWhale. Today we received a report about a change with at least one local museum in time for the NRA meeting. Chaz reports:
The GOOD NEWS is the the Frazier Historical Museum, just down the street from the Louisville Slugger, has now taken down their “no weapons” signs and informs us that they welcome CCDW permit holders as long as they observe the laws pertaining thereto. Their web site is http://www.fraziermuseum.org and if you love edged weapons, firearms of all types and all ages and the history that surrounds them they you’re going to LOVE this place! They even have a large section of arms on loan from the Tower of London armory!
By all means, if you love history and guns and knives and swords, take the time to visit the Frazier museum, you’ll have a ball. They have fencing demonstrations in addition to the static displays, and the layout is as modern as it gets, very nicely done.
He goes on to mention another local museum that is sticking to its (lack of) guns policy.
Unfortunately, some few places still haven’t gotten the word and they prohibit legal CCDW on their premises and in their buildings. Sadly, one of those is the Louisville Slugger museum, where they show you how they make the famous hardwood baseball bats. Their website is at http://www.sluggermuseum.org. They have signs posted on their doors prohibiting lawful citizens from exercising their right to carry in their building. Sounds to me like a reason not to go there, if that’s what they want.
That’s too bad to hear.
I’ll add one final personal thought about carry. I’ll premise this with the fact that I don’t know what the situation will be until we arrive, but this is based on previous experiences.
With Senator McCain now a confirmed speaker at the event, those attending the Leadership Forum on Friday might want to reconsider carrying that day if they were planning on doing so while in Louisville. Last month, McCain accepted Secret Service protection. I can’t speak for the exact set up this year, but when Vice President Cheney spoke in Pittsburgh, the Secret Service did send everyone through a metal detector at the entrance to the room. I can only assume it will be the same. Should the policy be the same this year, please understand that it is out of the hands of NRA. Ask anyone who was waiting to eat in Pittsburgh that evening…
UPDATE: The day after I posted this, it has been announced that the Secret Service will not be an issue and carry will be allowed to the event.
UPDATE II: Looks like the report is potentially false. I would play it safe on Friday and not carry to the McCain event based on previous experience with the Secret Service.
UPDATE III: It is confirmed, there is no carrying in the Leadership Forum.
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May 10th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
I read what Great Blue Whale had written about CCDW in Ky. I quote in part below -
“If you patronize establishments serving adult beverages, you need toread this. You may not carry a loaded concealed firearm in a bar. This may also apply to some restaurants which sell liquor or wine by the drink. In addition to any criminal charges which may ensue, you will lose your firearm if found guilty of violating this law.”
And I offer these corrections -
You may not carry a firearm into a bar concealed OR loaded. If you have a firearm in a bar, it must be open to view and unloaded. A bar is a place where they are primarily involved in the sale of alcohol by the drink for consumption on the premises. This does not apply to a liquor store or a convenience store where they sell beer.
Pertaining to restaurants and other places that sell drinks and food: if the establishment derives more than 50% of its income from the sale of food, and seats more than 100 people, then you may carry a concealed and loaded firearm in that establishment IF you are a concealed carry permit holder. This applies to anyone with a permit, from any state.
So if you go into a bar, even if you eat a sandwich while you’re there, the gun must be unloaded and open to view.
If you’re in Applebee’s or another such establishment or restaurant then you can carry both loaded and concealed, even though they serve alcohol, IF you have a permit.
Aside from that minor quibble the rest of the info is on the money and very useful. I offer the correction so that folks won’t be put off from going to restaurants while carrying if that restaurant sells alcohol - Chaz
“If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went” - Will Rogers
May 12th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Thanks for the clarification, Charles. That one got by me.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:38 am
From the NRA Annual Meeting site
Kentucky recognizes valid concealed carry permits from all states. Permits must be carried on your person and shown to law enforcement upon request.
FIREARMS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN SOUTH HALL “A” DURING THE CELEBRATION OF AMERICAN VALUES LEADERSHIP FORUM.
May 15th, 2008 at 9:23 am
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